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	<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:53:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on WE-TV by - Ars Electronica, Day 4</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/we-tv/#comment-175</link>
		<dc:creator>- Ars Electronica, Day 4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 14:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] So come and join us at 6 pm (MEZ) at WE-TV. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiring Indians by AP</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>AP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sugata is no good...he is trying to sell Hole in Wall as a big stuff for his company...he and his copmany both likes to sell half truths...and that's why both did not grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sugata is no good&#8230;he is trying to sell Hole in Wall as a big stuff for his company&#8230;he and his copmany both likes to sell half truths&#8230;and that&#8217;s why both did not grow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on WE-TV by - Ars Electronica, Day 3</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/we-tv/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>- Ars Electronica, Day 3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are the streams we did so far and here you&#8217;ll find videotaped [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] are the streams we did so far and here you&#8217;ll find videotaped [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiring Indians by Sugata Mitra</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Sugata Mitra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 11:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-168</guid>
		<description>Gentlemen, gentlemen, please calm yourselves!

This article is based on my personal observations. It is opinionated. It is not a scientific thesis and is not based on any data other than personal anecdotal ones. 

It needed to be written. 

Do I have to do science all the time?

How about some fun? Why do we eat hot pickle? Not for nutrition, I am sure. 

Go on, pull my leg, use some choice expletives (by region, caste and creed) and carry on..........

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen, gentlemen, please calm yourselves!</p>
<p>This article is based on my personal observations. It is opinionated. It is not a scientific thesis and is not based on any data other than personal anecdotal ones. </p>
<p>It needed to be written. </p>
<p>Do I have to do science all the time?</p>
<p>How about some fun? Why do we eat hot pickle? Not for nutrition, I am sure. </p>
<p>Go on, pull my leg, use some choice expletives (by region, caste and creed) and carry on&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ten Futures by erichansa</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/ten-futures_neu/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>erichansa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 16:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/ten-futures_neu/#comment-158</guid>
		<description>I love modern society</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love modern society</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiring Indians by Arun Rabindar</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Arun Rabindar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-157</guid>
		<description>This article has far too many generalizations and refuting each one is going to be a waste of time. I am from South India and unlike other commenters here, I wasn't frustrated or angered by his observations but laughed out loud.

I quote: "For example, people from the state of Punjab, who speak the Punjabi language are called Punjabi’s, while those from the state of West Bengal, who speak the Bengali language are called Bengali’s." Punjabi's what? Bengali's what? I'll take the professor seriously when he takes his grammar seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article has far too many generalizations and refuting each one is going to be a waste of time. I am from South India and unlike other commenters here, I wasn&#8217;t frustrated or angered by his observations but laughed out loud.</p>
<p>I quote: &#8220;For example, people from the state of Punjab, who speak the Punjabi language are called Punjabi’s, while those from the state of West Bengal, who speak the Bengali language are called Bengali’s.&#8221; Punjabi&#8217;s what? Bengali&#8217;s what? I&#8217;ll take the professor seriously when he takes his grammar seriously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiring Indians by Ashok Desai</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-154</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashok Desai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-154</guid>
		<description>Absolutely superb. Outspoken, outrageous, and hugely entertaining. I especially loved his comments on us Gujaratis. I know there are a lot of Gujaratis who are not money-minded, and many who would have done better if they had been more money-minded. But this is the universal stereotype about Gujaratis, and I would hate to live in an India where it could not be put in words. He opened my eyes - slightly. For example, I have done 15 jobs; I didn't know it was because I was a Gujarati.
When I was young, it was quite common amongst Indians to have preconceptions of this type about one another, and to express and discuss them. Then India started getting to be one India, a new, politically correct generation grew up, and banter of this type disappeared. Sugata Mitra is not being "scientific" - in fact, he gives no evidence at all. So one does not have to take him seriously; that some people have suggests to me that their Indian ego is rather fragile.
Incidentally, I came across this piece quite accidentally. I was interested in Sugata Mitra's hole-in-the-wall experiment and wondered what he had been doing since. What he has been doing is quite predictable and boring - he is teaching in Newcastle, I understand. But this piece shows that he has not entirely lost his wacky brilliance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely superb. Outspoken, outrageous, and hugely entertaining. I especially loved his comments on us Gujaratis. I know there are a lot of Gujaratis who are not money-minded, and many who would have done better if they had been more money-minded. But this is the universal stereotype about Gujaratis, and I would hate to live in an India where it could not be put in words. He opened my eyes - slightly. For example, I have done 15 jobs; I didn&#8217;t know it was because I was a Gujarati.<br />
When I was young, it was quite common amongst Indians to have preconceptions of this type about one another, and to express and discuss them. Then India started getting to be one India, a new, politically correct generation grew up, and banter of this type disappeared. Sugata Mitra is not being &#8220;scientific&#8221; - in fact, he gives no evidence at all. So one does not have to take him seriously; that some people have suggests to me that their Indian ego is rather fragile.<br />
Incidentally, I came across this piece quite accidentally. I was interested in Sugata Mitra&#8217;s hole-in-the-wall experiment and wondered what he had been doing since. What he has been doing is quite predictable and boring - he is teaching in Newcastle, I understand. But this piece shows that he has not entirely lost his wacky brilliance.</p>
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		<title>Comment on WE-TV by - Ars Electronica, Day 1</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/we-tv/#comment-153</link>
		<dc:creator>- Ars Electronica, Day 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 05:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.we-magazine.net/we-tv/#comment-153</guid>
		<description>[...] a 30 minute live  session from Ars Electronica with the highlights of the day! You can follow the live stream here. A chat will be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] a 30 minute live  session from Ars Electronica with the highlights of the day! You can follow the live stream here. A chat will be [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiring Indians by Anasuya Sengupta</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>Anasuya Sengupta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-147</guid>
		<description>Dear Rakesh and Ulrike, I completely agree with both of you that debate is critical on issues of identity and possible conflict arising out of these issues. While interested in technology, I myself am not in the tech industry, but work on issues of social justice, and passionately believe in the open and free discussion of difficult issues. And yes, I do not believe that debates about Indians or India - or anywhere else for that matter - need to be limited by geography, citizenship or origin, though an understanding of context is essential.

However, there is a certain responsibility that those of us who undertake to take these discussions have; equally, arising from this, there is a clear demarcation between discussing difference and promoting discrimination. As a well-known academic, if Prof. Mitra had written the article in the spirit of challenging the stereotypes that exist of Indians today, I would have applauded his courage and welcomed the discussion. However, it is patently obvious that the article is not written either to dispel or to deconstruct these stereotypes critically, but to reinforce them in the most damaging of ways. And for an academic to turn personal opinions into generalisations that then masquerade as truths: that is not just irresponsible, it is downright appalling.

I have worked with different organisations in the social sector from across India, and for every 'generalisation' Prof. Mitra has made, I can give you examples of people who counter his various images. I am fairly certain this would be true of the tech industry as well. I hesitate to do so, however, because that would give credence to an analysis I find flimsy and absurd. As an activist and social scientist, I also find Prof. Mitra's generalisations not just problematic from the point of view of perception, but from simple fact. Everyone in Tamil Nadu is not 'strictly vegetarian' for example, just as not everyone in Andhra or Kerala eats fish and meat: vegetarianism In India is primarily based on caste and community (of which every state has a multitude, professing different life and food styles), but also, obviously, on choice. 

Even a faint modicum of research and analysis - and an acknowledgment that these are Prof. Mitra's personal opinions, not general truths - might have turned this article into an opportunity for a much more productive and interesting discussion. As it stands now, I am gravely disappointed, both by Prof. Mitra's article and in Ulrike, as the editor, for supporting this kind of inadequate writing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rakesh and Ulrike, I completely agree with both of you that debate is critical on issues of identity and possible conflict arising out of these issues. While interested in technology, I myself am not in the tech industry, but work on issues of social justice, and passionately believe in the open and free discussion of difficult issues. And yes, I do not believe that debates about Indians or India - or anywhere else for that matter - need to be limited by geography, citizenship or origin, though an understanding of context is essential.</p>
<p>However, there is a certain responsibility that those of us who undertake to take these discussions have; equally, arising from this, there is a clear demarcation between discussing difference and promoting discrimination. As a well-known academic, if Prof. Mitra had written the article in the spirit of challenging the stereotypes that exist of Indians today, I would have applauded his courage and welcomed the discussion. However, it is patently obvious that the article is not written either to dispel or to deconstruct these stereotypes critically, but to reinforce them in the most damaging of ways. And for an academic to turn personal opinions into generalisations that then masquerade as truths: that is not just irresponsible, it is downright appalling.</p>
<p>I have worked with different organisations in the social sector from across India, and for every &#8216;generalisation&#8217; Prof. Mitra has made, I can give you examples of people who counter his various images. I am fairly certain this would be true of the tech industry as well. I hesitate to do so, however, because that would give credence to an analysis I find flimsy and absurd. As an activist and social scientist, I also find Prof. Mitra&#8217;s generalisations not just problematic from the point of view of perception, but from simple fact. Everyone in Tamil Nadu is not &#8217;strictly vegetarian&#8217; for example, just as not everyone in Andhra or Kerala eats fish and meat: vegetarianism In India is primarily based on caste and community (of which every state has a multitude, professing different life and food styles), but also, obviously, on choice. </p>
<p>Even a faint modicum of research and analysis - and an acknowledgment that these are Prof. Mitra&#8217;s personal opinions, not general truths - might have turned this article into an opportunity for a much more productive and interesting discussion. As it stands now, I am gravely disappointed, both by Prof. Mitra&#8217;s article and in Ulrike, as the editor, for supporting this kind of inadequate writing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hiring Indians by Rakesh Biswas</title>
		<link>http://www.we-magazine.net/volumes/volume-01/hiring-indians/#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>Rakesh Biswas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 15:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I would say Mitra is brave enough to openly talk about issues we Indians generally prefer to discuss only in a closed circle of (ahem Indians mostly). 

We have a unique sense of national pride in which we tend to label any criticism of 
India-Shining, as unpatriotic.

I too feel Mitra is wrong in some of his generalizations but then his objective was trying to get us out into an open debate. Every man is entitled to have his views in a democratic plurality that characterizes our nation. 

I often wondered why no one challenged these stereotypes of a hardworking emotional Punjabi and a lazy creative Bengali etc. Perhaps this was because it was never discussed in an open forum. 

It is time we Indians put forward all our (perverted) opinions about us in one single platform and compared notes. Hope to see it happening in this web page.

A few interesting themes may emerge from these thoughts (generated from different individual point sources getting self organized) before they fade into oblivion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I would say Mitra is brave enough to openly talk about issues we Indians generally prefer to discuss only in a closed circle of (ahem Indians mostly). </p>
<p>We have a unique sense of national pride in which we tend to label any criticism of<br />
India-Shining, as unpatriotic.</p>
<p>I too feel Mitra is wrong in some of his generalizations but then his objective was trying to get us out into an open debate. Every man is entitled to have his views in a democratic plurality that characterizes our nation. </p>
<p>I often wondered why no one challenged these stereotypes of a hardworking emotional Punjabi and a lazy creative Bengali etc. Perhaps this was because it was never discussed in an open forum. </p>
<p>It is time we Indians put forward all our (perverted) opinions about us in one single platform and compared notes. Hope to see it happening in this web page.</p>
<p>A few interesting themes may emerge from these thoughts (generated from different individual point sources getting self organized) before they fade into oblivion.</p>
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